Robyn Mancell: [00:00:00] Believe that they can and make a decision. It starts with the decision, right? So you have to make the decision, that are you really fed up or is this just something you wanna keep talking about? Like, are you complaining just to complain?

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: If you’re not gonna do anything, the decision, if you’re not gonna do anything, then just stay where you are and do that, just own that, right? You’re not gonna do anything. I’m just, I just like to complain. 

Richelle Shaw: Yep. Yep. Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: But the first very thing is and this is interesting that you asked this because I’m teaching the sciences of getting rich right now, we’re in the middle of the science of getting rich.

 The science of getting rich is not just about, people think, oh, it’s just about me learning how to get rich. No, it really is not. That’s not really what it’s about. It is about you doing things in a certain way, like you said. It is you doing things in a certain way and not getting so caught up emotionally in it.

Richelle Shaw: Right. 

Robyn Mancell: It is you making a decision that starts with what? [00:01:00] A thought.

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. A thought. Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: Everything that we do starts there, right? 

Richelle Shaw: Absolutely. 

Robyn Mancell: So before you can go onto the second step, this gotta be right. So the answer to your question, it is making the decision that I am gonna do something different.

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. Right.

Robyn Mancell: And if you’re not, it’s owning too. 

Narrator: Welcome to The Million Dollar Equation Podcast. A podcast about the easiest, fastest way to build a million dollar business based on the best selling book, The Million Dollar Equation. If you Love Business. Each episode reveals all of the core fundamental essentials for growth. Now, here’s your host, Richelle Shaw.

Richelle Shaw: Hey everybody, we’re back, we’re back, we’re back. So part of this whole summit has been for me to introduce you to some of my besties and [00:02:00] my besties who are doing stuff, who are changing the world, who are truly making a difference. So I am excited to bring my friend Robyn Mancell. So she’s gonna teach you all about Girls Gone ForEx and all of that. 

But before we get to that, before we get to that, I want her to introduce herself to you, so that you will see all the amazing things that I get to see when I got introduced to her. So, hey Robyn, welcome to the show and introduce yourself, please. 

Robyn Mancell: Oh, thank you for having me. My name’s Robyn Mancell and I am the co-founder of Girls Gone Forex and I am in the city of Rancho Cucamonga. We also have an office in Dallas, Texas. I am a mother of three sons and I have one granddaughter and I’ve been self-employed. I’ve been a serial entrepreneur now for over 25 years after walking out of corporate America. I have never looked back and I’ve been doing [00:03:00] that self-employed gig ever since.

Richelle Shaw: Yes, yes. I’ve always loved to hear that because I think, you know, we are different. Us self-employed entrepreneurs, we’re just different and so often folks want to, well, how come you, like, how come you didn’t go back and get a job? Well, I don’t wanna go back and, you know what I mean? It’s like, what? Really? Never considered it.

Robyn Mancell: Right, right. 

Richelle Shaw: I think once you get that first taste of entrepreneurship… Well, let me ask you, I know that that’s how I feel, but is that how you feel too? Have you ever felt like, Ooh, I should go back to a job? 

Robyn Mancell: Never. Never. No, I literally, when you get a, I tell people, when you get a taste of freedom, it is intoxicating. I’ve never, I don’t care how bad, cause, you know, we have our ups and downs, right?

Richelle Shaw: Sure.

Robyn Mancell: I don’t care how bad it has gotten, I will just create something.

Richelle Shaw: That’s it. That’s it. I mean [00:04:00] once you figure that piece out, I think that so many folks, you know, they struggle with that.

Like, they think that this is it, you know? And I said, it’s not it. I don’t care what it is. It’s never it until you decide that this is it. So from, you know, losing it all from filing bankruptcy, from having a credit score of 427. Yep. That’s me. From, you know, losing my house to one night I go to sleep and I wake up and my Lexus is gone out of my driveway.

Robyn Mancell: Right. 

All of those things, you know, I didn’t answer the door and it was the gas man cutting off my gas and I went without gas in my house for 18 days, you know, all of those things. Never once did I say, Ooh, maybe I should update my resume. That just, that never, never. I mean, I never , you know? Yeah. So if, I don’t, I just don’t know.

I don’t understand that, that’s not how my brain processes. I know that you’ve done many things in your career. [00:05:00] Tell us about some of the other companies that you owned before you started Girls Gone ForEX. 

Okay, so when I left corporate America, I worked for Mabel and I went and got my series 6 and 63 license. So I did that. Did the insurance industry for a while. I have sold credit card machines. I had my own executive recruiting company in the telecom industry. I run telemarketing offices.

I even had a restaurant. I had a restaurant for eight years and I have to tell you, that was the most fun I’ve ever had because nobody’s coming in complaining if you serve them good food. We were kind of like, Cheers, so they wrote a lot of articles on us because everybody, we knew everybody’s name. 

I’ve done a little, I even had a gym. I haven’t had a lady fitness center. I’ve been in the travel industry. 

Richelle Shaw: Wow! I love that! Well, so te tell me about the restaurant. Like, what kind of restaurant did you have?

Robyn Mancell: So my boyfriend played in the N F L [00:06:00] and he had, I actually talked him into this restaurant,

\|because he had a restaurant when he played in the N F L. He also had a restaurant when he lived in Sacramento and I said, Hey, let’s give it a shot and it literally came to us in that way.

 I have no restaurant experience. I never, even as a kid, you know, like when you’re 16, most of us, most people start out there.

Richelle Shaw: Yeah.

Robyn Mancell: I didn’t have any restaurant experience, but I tell you, I knew how I wanted people to feel. I knew how I wanted you to feel when you came into that place and I had people say all the time, your food is good, your food’s really, really good.

We come here because of you and we saw kids, kids literally brought their parents to our place and it was, for me, it was one of the happiest places that I’ve ever had. Because you’re serving people, you’re giving them good food, you’re giving them good conversation. It’s a lot of work though. Back breaking [00:07:00] work.

Richelle Shaw: So, I mean, you know, we didn’t discuss that we were gonna talk about this, but, you know, I don’t care. Do you mind sharing what happened? 

Robyn Mancell: So we had the restaurant for about eight years and then we went into this was my first time into the network marketing industry. That’s how I ended up travel.

 So we started being gone more and the one thing about the restaurant business, you have to be really careful with your employees, because it’s either, if it ain’t going out the back door, it’s going out the front. And so we were gone a lot more. We still have the restaurant and it just wasn’t being run the way we would run it. It was our baby. Right? 

Richelle Shaw: Yep. 

Robyn Mancell: And obviously working 15, 16 hours a day and we go into the travel business and we’re making more money. We’re literally making five, six figures a month traveling. It was kinda like, I love this. 

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. Why do this? Right. But not that much .

Robyn Mancell: Right, right. Yeah. That’s really what happen.

Richelle Shaw: That makes sense. I mean and [00:08:00] I talk to folks who when I show them, well, look, you know, why would I ever go out and do a business that is labor intensive, cost intensive. You know, I can’t control when I’m going to sell this piece of chicken so that piece of chicken controls my life.

Robyn Mancell: Right. Right. Absolutely. 

Richelle Shaw: It’s like, Ooh, but you didn’t order today, don’t you want the chicken? Well, that becomes the special today. Don’t you want the chicken? Because, you know, we are on a limited time as to when I can sell that chicken. 

Robyn Mancell: Absolutely.

Richelle Shaw: So when I look at businesses and when I look at businesses to buy, which is what I’m doing now in my life, you know, I always look at those things.

Okay, well, I also don’t go into, you know, daycare. Well, daycare is extremely lucrative. Right. Right. People are paying a thousand dollars a week to have you watch their kid. However, it’s highly regulated. So when it’s highly regulated, the government controls how many teachers I can hire that need to be there per kid while I’m there. If I [00:09:00] can offer food or if I can’t offer food.

I don’t like that. Which is one of the reasons why still, I’m not in the medical marijuana game. You know, one, is that I don’t believe in it. You know, Hey, do what you do. Now, but it’s not my thing. 

Robyn Mancell: Yeah.

Richelle Shaw: And secondly is too much regulation. You know ,why don’t have a nonprofit? I don’t want it. No, no, no. I have a nonprofit that works so that I can put money in, you know, so that I can do other things with that. But that’s not my main source, cause I don’t want you knowing how much money I have. I get to tell you how much money I have. Right.? So, when I look at businesses, you know, I’m always interested. 

One of my great friends, who is gonna be on my next round of summits cuz she just couldn’t make it work. But she had a steak restaurant, a steak hibachi restaurant that, killed it. You know, I mean she talks about how she built her email list to over a hundred thousand people in the Pittsburgh area. You know, when you have control over an email list, a hundred [00:10:00] thousand people, your restaurant can, you know, can kill it. Right? 

Robyn Mancell: Absolutely.

Richelle Shaw: And that’s exactly, you know, they got to $6 million very quickly, but what, what she found out is the same thing that you did, you know, 15 hour days if she wasn’t the one there, controlling it, and then they’ve got the shrimp who also is on a timer , you know what I mean? The state can kind of, but that shrimp and scallops that’s on a timer.

If you’re not getting that, you know, you end up throwing away so much waste and you have to increase your prices in order to cover the food costs that don’t, you know, it’s just, it’s always this crazy balance. 

Robyn Mancell: Oh my God. 

Richelle Shaw: I’m interviewing you today, so let me, let me be quiet.

Robyn Mancell: But you said it all though. You did say it all, because it’s a heart business. I mean, I know why people do it, you know?

Richelle Shaw: Sure. 

Robyn Mancell: Because you wanna share your gift of cooking great food with other people. And I mean, it was, it was wonderful. I mean, people, I still see people to this day and they remember the [00:11:00] restaurant.

Richelle Shaw: Right, of course, of course. Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: But it’s just that it economically,

Richelle Shaw: Right !

Robyn Mancell: Eeehh…, it just doesn’t really make a lot of sense. 

Richelle Shaw: Right, and I think that, you know, as serial entrepreneurs that we get to the point where now I’m just all for maximizing and leveraging my time and my money and my money. Which leads us to, what made you get into Forex? You know, so talk about, you know, what it is and why you chose this. 

Robyn Mancell: Okay. So I didn’t know what Forex was five years ago. 

Richelle Shaw: Wow.

Robyn Mancell: I did not, I literally saw as I said, I had been in went into a network marketing company for the first time, became a top income earner in that company. And, you know, the whole residual income thing was extremely appealing to me. But they have their problems just like everybody else, right?

Richelle Shaw: Yep. Yep. 

Robyn Mancell: I kept seeing people, these young people who had worked with me before we had built a team to about a hundred thousand people. So I saw [00:12:00] them talking about this on social media, right? They kept talking about Forex and I kept seeing them, you know, how they do this thing flashing money.

 And I would go to somebody else and say, okay, is he doing, what’s he doing? Is this illegal? Like, what is he doing? That’s a lot of money.

Richelle Shaw: Yes. 

Robyn Mancell: And they go, no, no, no. It’s legitimate. It’s Forex. And I’m like, what is that? I don’t know what it is. Right? Well, I got invited to an event and it was a women’s breakfast.

The woman there had been trading for 20 years. She was a woman out of New York and she said she stood in front of the audience and said Forex is something that she learned about 20 years ago. The brokers, when they were going from paper to the internet, they were paying for men to take the classes they were paying for the guys.

She said they wouldn’t let her into the class unless she paid for it and she had to pay $12,000 Yeah. To get it and [00:13:00] she had 12 grand to pay. So anyway, she said after she went through the course, she was sitting there like, I can’t believe people don’t know about this. I don’t understand. Why don’t people know?

Well, I got to, you know, become friends with her because I was just intrigued. I was just intrigued by her, what she was saying? So one day we were watching, you know how when we were having all the Black Lives Matter stuff going on with the police and stuff?

Richelle Shaw: Yes. 

Robyn Mancell: She’s an Italian woman and she said to me, she goes, no disrespect, no disrespect, but I wanna tell you how you can solve the marching thing.

You know, I get it, but you need economic empowerment. She said, you need to learn how to trade and you need to teach that to your community. I went, but I don’t know how to trade and she goes, well, you’ll figure that out. She goes, but I’m telling you, you don’t need anything but a computer, internet anywhere in the world, no [00:14:00] college degree, no credit check. She said, honey, it is the great equalizer. It could change your life. 

Richelle Shaw: Got it. 

Robyn Mancell: And I went, oh my God. I literally hung on to that when she said that, I was like, yes, I gotta do something. I mean, how do I get this to the world? How do I get this message to the world?

Richelle Shaw: Sure. 

Robyn Mancell: And so what I did was I started a group on Facebook and I called it the Women of Wall Street. Right? 

Richelle Shaw: Okay. 

Robyn Mancell: One day she looks at it and she goes Forex isn’t on Wall Street. I was like, Oh well, Oh, okay. See how much I know, right? But I’m a doer, so I just do things and if you tell me I’m doing it wrong, then I just adjust, right?

Richelle Shaw: Adjust, Yes! 

Robyn Mancell: So I just adjust, right. So I had a company called Green Makeover Team. What I was doing is I was showing people how to go green. Solar, everything inside of your home, the L.E.D. Lighting, everything and then I had a life coach because not just going green, I was [00:15:00] trying to create a TV show.

So I had a life coach, a guy that somebody introduced me to online. And I went to Dallas to meet with him. I took a film crew and everything, cuz we were gonna sell this to the TV station. So we did our first show, and I’m telling him when it’s over, I said to him, I gotta learn this Forex stuff.

I don’t know how I’m gonna learn it. I don’t know where I’m gonna learn it. I seen a place online, they want 20 grand. I gotta figure this thing out. He looks at me and he goes, there was a woman there at the house. I didn’t know whose house it was. And he goes, do you see that woman right there? I go, yeah.

He goes, that’s my ex-wife. She’s been trading over 15 years, just like that. I went, what? He goes, yeah, she’s been trading. Forex over 15 years, her and I started having a conversation. I said, Hey, I got this idea. I really wanna learn how to trade. I said, you think you could teach? She said, absolutely, but I don’t want to.

I’m [00:16:00] like, oh, okay. All right. So I just keep, you know, kind of talking to her, asking her, I had got involved in another company and I said, Hey, can you tell me if what they’re doing is right, would you mind just telling me, you know, if this is correct? 

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: And so she, we hung along. We talked and talked, and then I read a book called Turtle Traders.

This book called Turtle Traders was a story of Richard Dennis worth about 250 million. And he did a bet with his business partner and what he did was he said, I can take 15 people off the street and teach them how to trade. So he ran an ad in the Wall Street Journal. Now this is 15, 20 years ago, he ran an ad.

 He took 15 people, but only one woman within two years. They were all multi-millionaires. Right. I was in the gym when I was reading this, I was in the gym. I literally ran out of the gym. I called her on the phone and I said, I [00:17:00] think you need to rethink this. Okay. Because here’s what we are gonna do. I go, I already came up with a name.

How do you like Girls Gone Forex? I said, let’s do what he did, but let’s do it with all women and she agreed. That was December of 2016 and in March we launched our very first training class. 

Richelle Shaw: Wow. Wow. Wow, wow. So now are you training personally? 

Robyn Mancell: I do. Yeah. Well, I had to go through the academy too. So I go through when, we got started, the only person that could put together the curriculum was her. Linda’s, that’s my business partner. She’s the only person that could put together the curriculum because she’s been training all this time.

Richelle Shaw: Right, right. 

Robyn Mancell: And she used to be a money manager also, so she knew this stuff backwards and forward. She spent, I’m gonna say, the better part of two weeks, 10 hours a day, putting [00:18:00] together that curriculum. I could only do what I do, which is I’ve been on Facebook, I’m the social media visionary person. So we took in a hundred applications. I ran a contest on Facebook. I said, we’re gonna give 15 women the ability to learn how to trade for free.

I need a a hundred applications and we’re gonna interview you by phone and we’re gonna hand select 15 women for this. Literally it was born and in the beginning there wasn’t a whole lot. I mean it because she was teaching them and it took her about 12 weeks for them to go through the course.

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: And we wanted to, before we put it out there as a course, we wanted to prove that we knew what we were doing. That we could actually teach women how to trade and then have successful women. So that’s when the term trade like a girl came up. And so we started giving people the designation call trade like a girl.

So yeah, I had to go through all three parts of the academy myself. 

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. Yeah.

Robyn Mancell: [00:19:00] And I, I got beat a little bit up sometime too. . . 

Sure. Well, I mean, that’s how you learn, right? That that’s how you learn. So why do you think it’s so important that women learn how to trade? I mean, men too, you know, but they’re giving you opportunities.

Richelle Shaw: Why do you think it’s important that women trade?

Robyn Mancell: 90% of the market is controlled by men? 90%!

In Japan. In Japan, you will see a large group of women that trade because they started trading cuz they were bored and they needed something to do. Very natural in Japan. But the numbers, when you look at the United States ,you look at other areas, the UK, it’s not a lot. 

You don’t meet a lot of women traders. It is very empowering because it gives you options. It gives women the opportunity whether, I don’t care whether you’re single, married, divorced, whatever it is, you now have options that you don’t have to go outside of the home. You don’t have to do some other job that maybe you’re [00:20:00] putting yourself in harm’s way, you know?

Richelle Shaw: Gotcha. 

Robyn Mancell: To try to make extra money. It gives you, as long as you get that laptop and you got internet access, you can learn to trade and you can replace or supplement the income that you need for your household. And it’ll be different for everybody.

Richelle Shaw: Right. Wow. No, that’s, that’s fantastic. So, I heard you say, you took some L’s, you know, I took the L yesterday. So, you know, why are most people failing at trading? 

Robyn Mancell: Oh, easy. Discipline. Discipline and mindset. Mindset. Well, the number one, if you read anything, Google it, books, whatever ,they all say. Like, there’s a series right now, a reality YouTube show out of the UK and he brought in a mindset coach. And I am the mindset coach, by the way.

When Linda taught the first class, she said, oh my goodness, you’re gonna have to do mindset with these people, because that was the [00:21:00] area where it is the biggest challenge. I mean, I have to give a mindset talk to myself. Right.

Richelle Shaw: Right. We all do, we all do, but you know, it’s really easy for me to flip, I think, because I’ve already been there, right?

So, I mean, I struggle with that, that’s kind of why I got out of the coaching business, because you know, people really didn’t believe they could build money. Like, they say they want to, but they didn’t believe that they actually could and they’d say, you know, Richelle, do you really believe that every business can be a million dollar business?

I go, yeah, it’s just moving a couple of things around, but because they’ve never done it, you know, they don’t see it. And I’m like, you know, you have to believe it first. You know, and I can’t help you with that piece. Like, you gotta like go somewhere else, you know? Because as much as I wanted to show you which is why I’m doing this, you know, it’s like I’m almost finished with, with my new book *inaudible*.

It’s all about collaboration and putting together, a [00:22:00] system so that people are promoting you and selling you. Right? And so, I go, it’s simple and they still didn’t believe me. So I said, okay, this is what I’m gonna do and literally less than 30 days ago, because I’m an implementer like you.

I said, this is what I’m gonna do and I’m gonna make it happen. So now they keep going, oh my god. Oh, cause you see it’s just about doing, right? And have I made pivots and have I changed some things? Absolutely! But if you trust the process and follow the process that you will make it. 

But they second guess it. They second guess it all. Well, that can’t be real. Well, that can’t be right. Well, they, that’s not what’s really going on. Oh, and I can’t do it because, and you know, fill in the blank. 

I’m like, okay, so how about, you know, because you’re 27. Oh no, no, I’m older than 27. Okay. Well I was 27 when I owned my first business. How about all, because you’re African American?

Oh, you’re not? Ok. So, ok. That, [00:23:00] that’s an obstacle. Right? 

Ok. Well how about because you’re a woman. Oh, you’re not a woman. OK, well geez, you know, I just…,you know. How about cuz you’re a little bit chubby. Oh, You’re not chubby either. Well Damn, I have every obstacle, there is to not succeed, every excuse, but I said I don’t have an excuse. 

Robyn Mancell: Right. 

Richelle Shaw: I don’t care what, if they did it for him, they can do it for me. If so-and-so did it, I can do it.

So that’s what I’m gonna do. So when I hear you say that it’s mindset and discipline, I’m like, all right, sign me up. Right. Because I got all that.

Right. 

Robyn Mancell: And you know what’s funny about that, is I remember telling Linda when she said, you know, we gotta have some mindset training and I told her, I said, you know, your job is easier than mine. Right?

Richelle Shaw: Exactly.

Robyn Mancell: Because you’re just teaching them how to do the thing. The thing, if you’re in the market, cuz we use technical analysis a lot. If you see the, the candlestick do this, then you do this. [00:24:00] Right. But you want me, you want me to undo years. 

Richelle Shaw: Yes. Years. Years. 

Robyn Mancell: Okay. So you and, and here’s the problem. When I’m done talking with them, their brain is in their head when they walk away. I told her, I said, the other difficult part is that most people who need mindset don’t think they need it. 

You’re here, like we’re preaching to the choir today. 

Richelle Shaw: Yes, yes. That is so true and it’s so funny cuz that’s what I always tell the folks who come to me and wanna be life coaches, right? 

 I said, okay, so here’s the deal. If you want me to tell you the truth, you want the truth? They’re like, oh yeah Richelle, I can take the truth. I’m like, so people who want your services are ticky tiki, boom boom, crazy.

Okay. Those who say, I think I might need a life coach are nuts. They need a psychiatrist. Like they’ve got [00:25:00] years and years of just shit. You know what I mean? And, and pardon my French, but they need it. And the folks who could really use you are too proud. So I never even as a business coach, I never sold the mindset, you know, cuz that’s a hard sell.

Robyn Mancell: It is. 

Richelle Shaw: I said, here, this is what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna teach you how to build a million dollar business. They’re like, they all want that. Then they come in and I’m like, okay, well these are the three things you need to do first, right? And they go, oh my gosh, I’m having so much success. Well, you know why, because I fixed your head.

Because I fixed your head first. I fixed your head. You know, I showed you the possibility. I laid out the plan, I showed you. I had you meditate. I had you get really clear about where you wanna go. I had you write the steps. I have, you know, my, my favorite is to do a number chart. So you know, after this people will be able to see my number chart, right? And I go, okay, let’s talk about a million dollar busniess.

All right. So you know, how much are you charging? They go, you know, $17.00. [00:26:00] I go, okay, so how many of those do you have to sell to get to a million? Right? And it’s like, you know, 30,000. Okay. that’s why you don’t believe it, cuz your marketing is not good to sell 30,000, right?

Robyn Mancell: Yeah. 

Richelle Shaw: Well, what you need to do is get them somewhere between 1,000 and 10,000 per customer. They’re like, why? What? I go, yeah. All we have to do is change your price or create a better offer. So now you get the thousand because at a thousand dollars, guess how many you have to sell? And they, you know, they’re trying to do the ,yeah, and I’m like, no, move your decimal point over.

It’s only a thousand. It’s only a thousand. So a thousand times a thousand is a million and they go said, okay, so let’s even, I’ll break it down even further. That’s really only $80 a month. So sell a continuity program that’s $80 a month. They go, my God, not even 97.

Not even 97. Can you do that? They’re like, I can do that! I’m like, ALL RIGHT! Let’s go do it. Right? And then we’re *inaudible*, [00:27:00] and it’s like, Oh! But before I even show them that I have to fix the you are worthy.

Robyn Mancell: Right? 

Richelle Shaw: This is supposed to be for you. Please share your gift with the world. They don’t care that your hair isn’t perfect today. They don’t care that you have on the same black shirt you had on yesterday. They don’t care. You know? And so I had to, I have to prove it to them every day, because I go, you know, I’m not you. And I’m like, I know you’re not me. But that doesn’t mean you’re not amazingly special.

Robyn Mancell: Exactly. And that you have the ability. I told a guy that was working with us, I said, part of your problem in being, I told him, I said, you’re very left brain. And the problem with you being so left brain is that you question everything instead of you just going with the flow. You know, you kind of gotta relax a little bit. You know, you gotta kind of go with the flow.

And, and just like you said, there’s a system for literally everything. Everything. But you won’t even follow the system because you’re so…. 

 I’m gonna give you the perfect example. So I said to him, I [00:28:00] go, you’re horrible one-on-one. I go, you’re horrible. You miss commitments. You don’t know how to call when you say and you mess up everything. That’s what my relationship with you has been like.

I said, however, on the flip side, you’re a great teacher. Oh my God. I go, you’re a great teacher. So I said, so why don’t you create a program where you teach us entrepreneurs about our website? He does website stuff. I said, why don’t you teach a program and you could teach 20, 30, 40 of us all on the same, but once you record it the one time you’re done, right?

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: I said, so do you have a Facebook group? And he go, this is what he says to me. I don’t like Facebook. I said, I don’t care about whether you like it or not. Who cares whether you like it. Look at you. (Robyn Laughs), I said, So let me ask you this question. So you like being broke? Because that’s why we’re having this conversation. 

Richelle Shaw: (Richelle Laughing) Like being broke! You [00:29:00] know, obviously you do because, Oh my goodness.

Robyn Mancell: That’s what kept was coming out of the conversation, is because he literally was, you know, having a lot of money challenges. And I said, you think every time I ask you about something, charging me for that, is what’s gonna get you out of this. And that’s not it. That’s not what’s gonna get you out, because you’re chasing money to pay a bill. 

Richelle Shaw: Yeah, yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: And you could increase what you’re doing by doing what you’re great at. You’re great at this, but you suck at this. I said, you should stop doing that. You’re really sure. 

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. But they don’t, you know, I think some people just get into that habit and get into the pain.

And they do it. You know, one of the things I talk about in the million dollar equation is what’s gonna make you a great entrepreneur? If you really wanna do that, what’s gonna make you a great entrepreneur are all the things that made you a great employee. So if you were a horrible employee, you’re gonna be a bad entrepreneur, right?

So if you didn’t get to work on time, if you didn’t stay late, if you didn’t, you know, all of that. You know, the, the reason why people choose to be an [00:30:00] entrepreneur is because they say, oh, I want the time freedom. I wanna be able to do what I want, when I want. You’re gonna have a crappy business. What’s gonna make you a great business is time, discipline, commitment, doing extra, going overboard, committing to stuff, doing shit you don’t like.

That’s what makes a great business. 

Robyn Mancell: Not that is, that is a fa, so I’m stealing that from you, cuz I’m gonna, you know, I’m gonna ruffle some feathers and I’m gonna post that on Facebook because that needs to be said.

Richelle Shaw: It’s the truth.. Yes, the, it’s the truth. It’s the truth. You know why your business isn’t succeeding has nothing to do with it, it was because you’re being a bad employee.

It’s because you’re not committed to following through. It’s because you don’t show up on time. You don’t do what you say you’re gonna do. You don’t do it well, when you do it, you half ass it. You don’t do the time commitment, because you think that after you make $10, you should be able to take a break.

You’ve got all of these things that made you a bad employee. You know, the one job that I had [00:31:00] in my life, , the reason why I got promoted four times in five years and ended up buying it from my boss is because I was a great employee. I came early, I stayed late. I did exactly what was best for the company.

Even when my boss was wrong, I told him he was wrong. I said, you’re making a mistake here. That’s not the best for the company and then I ended up buying the company from him. You know, it’s like that’s when you get those opportunities, but you don’t get those when you once again, Go up late, don’t do what you say you’re gonna do.

Don’t commit to it, you know, half ass it and then, you know, or if you only work when you need money, you’re not going to make it. You know, and then you see it from the computer guy. You know, is your power bill high this week? 

Robyn Mancell: Yeah. 

Richelle Shaw: Because that, that you just did for me, you did for me two years ago and it costs $30 and now it’s $300. Wait, what the hell? Right? Yeah. What, what are you thinking about?

But I think many [00:32:00] don’t do that. You know, they, they fall in love with the hustle instead of the process. And I go, don’t love the hustle because you will always chase love and commit to the process so that the money flows and comes back.

Robyn Mancell: Amazing. I can’t wait. I can’t wait to get your book. I, because here’s the other part too. What made me able to come in and do the mindset is that when I was in for all the negative things people can say about network marketing companies, I took a, I did a lot of personal development there.

Richelle Shaw: Yes. Well, you have to.

Robyn Mancell: It was almost, yeah, it was almost required. They had a really good personal development teacher and so if you wanted to, if you were part of the top 20 income earners, they expected to see you there every single month, right? And so I was what they call teachable and coachable.

Richelle Shaw: Yep. 

Robyn Mancell: See, and that’s just what you said there is very true, because our employees that we had at the restaurant, we wanted to sell the restaurant to them. But in reality, what you said is so true. They were, [00:33:00] some of them, there was a lot of them that were not really good employees, that that would’ve been a horrible mistake.

Because like I said, if they ran things the way they did when we weren’t there, it’s exact. I’ve never heard it put that way, but that is.., like I said, I’m gonna make a post and wait till you see, probably get a hundred people comment on that. Cuz I’m gonna ask a question. Do you think that’s the way that it is? But I, I know you’re a hundred percent right, because everything has to do with, Oh, what do we always say in mindset?

How you do one thing, is how you do…

Richelle Shaw: How you do everything! It’s true. I was laughing. I go, you know, I met this, she had a really messy car, and I’m like, Ooh, I don’t wanna see your house. You know what I mean? Or the folks that I go and walk at this park, right? And there’s always dog, you know, feces all around.

I’m like, I would hate to see your house, right? Because if you’re okay with leaving the dog poop right there, I can only imagine what your house looks like. 

Because how you do everything is how you do everything, right? So that’s why you’ve been [00:34:00] successful in multiple areas. 

That’s why you can jump from business to business and still succeed because it has nothing to do with the business.

It has to do with who you are as a person and your commitment to excellence. And that’s just the bottom line. 

Robyn Mancell: I love that because I have said that during the course of the mindset, and I tell them, I say there’s only one reason. that I’ve been able to be successful for over 25 years as an entrepreneur and not ever have to go back to a job is because of my mindset.

Richelle Shaw: Yes. 

Robyn Mancell: You, you see, I just told you, those businesses that I gave you were all different, right. 

Richelle Shaw: All different.

Robyn Mancell: I done went from a restaurant to a gym to an executive recruiting to all of this. Right. And the gym was the only one that was kind of, you know, that put me in the hole a bit.

But regardless, like I said, nine outta 10, the success was there and it’s because of who I am and it’s because of how I think. So, so [00:35:00] you don’t have that problem there. But, but typically with things like Forex, as you were asking, you gotta get in here first. Because this is what’s stopping you from doing what you need to do.

It’s not, it’s not hard. Everybody likes to talk about when you say Forex, a lot of people, everywhere I go, they’re like, oh, why would you wanna do that? That’s so risky. Well, it’s risky getting on that freeway every day. It’s pretty risky.

Richelle Shaw: You better tell it. (both laughing) you know, it’s like, well, what are you talking about? You know, you take risks every single day. You know, who would’ve thought that the banking industry would stop? But it did. You know? Yeah. So that was risky. 

Just leaving your money in the bank, you know, who would’ve thought that all of these things that are happening now would be happening? So, I like to have controlled, calculated risk, but I take risk every single day.

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So tell me what’s so special about Trading Forex and tell us about the industry a little bit. 

Robyn Mancell: So the industry now online is about, 20 years. The great part about it is that you can decide what hours that you want, again, what you wanna work. The way we teach it is that you’re only gonna be in the market a couple of hours.

This is what’s surprising to a lot of people too. Because Linda’s very, very conservative and you can do well conservatively. I don’t know why. I don’t know. Anyway, so you’re, we’re…,

Richelle Shaw: Well, you know what? Cause they don’t know and it’s just like everything else in this world, because they don’t know. So if they’re feeding them [00:37:00] an image of what they think this is, then they all do that. You know?

Robyn Mancell: That’s true.

Richelle Shaw: It’s, you know, if you don’t know me, then you have this different image of, of who you think I am. Right? And that’s the same thing with Forex, you know? Yeah. If you don’t know it, if you don’t understand how it works, then you’re scared and you listen to all those crazy, you know, there’s people who, who don’t ride an Uber, right?

Robyn Mancell: Mm-hmm. 

Richelle Shaw: And it’s like, well, why? Oh my gosh, well that’s so scary. Did you know that this girl? And I’m like, so that’s one out of 3 million rides that happened to and that’s cuz there’s crazy people, right? And you’re gonna get those crazy people at the grocery store or go to the movie theater by yourself. Right? 

Robyn Mancell: You know, a plane. You don’t know who I think, what is it? Just somebody tried to open up a door who was on a plane? A lady tried to open the door. Okay? You don’t know wherever you go, like you said, you have no idea what you’re dealing with. So I just refuse to live in fear like that. How do you [00:38:00] get better at anything?

Right? You get better, because you keep doing it. You know, the perfect example is of a baby, right? A baby falls down how many times? A toddler. A toddler falls down how many times, but they still get up and they keep trying it again, right?

Richelle Shaw: Yep. 

Robyn Mancell: And I give the scenario too, of when you started your job, so let’s say you were 16, 18, you started your first job.

It was hard. You didn’t know what you were doing, you had no idea. But over time, you look back, if you were there for a year, you could look back and go, oh my gosh, I can remember when this was so hard. I didn’t know how to do it.

The biggest problem with Forex also is that because of social media and because of this information overload, people think that it is a get rich quick and it is nothing like that. 

And I tell people this all the time too, Richelle, look, if you got into trading Forex because you needed money today, yeah, well, you should [00:39:00] go Uber. Because it’s not that kind of a, that’s not the kind party we got going on.

Richelle Shaw: Right, Right. Because you can get paid today. You can get paid today at Uber. Yeah, exactly. 

Robyn Mancell: This is not the way this is gonna work. This is gonna be a process for you to get good at it. Just like a guy playing sports. Right. They typically start out learning the fundamentals of whatever. Like every, it’s everything. It’s music, it’s sports, it’s cooking, it’s everything. We never just wake up and we’re great at any of those things.

Richelle Shaw: Right, right. No, no. 

Robyn Mancell: And so the process is the biggest part. I just posted something that they say, Jeff Beso said to Warren Buffett, look, what you do. Basically is very simple. What you do in the stock market is pretty simple. So if it’s so simple, how, I don’t understand why most people just don’t do what you do. Right?

And he said, that’s because more people don’t wanna get rich slowly.

Richelle Shaw: Right. 

Robyn Mancell: They wanna get rich fast, quick, [00:40:00] in hurry.

Richelle Shaw: Right? Well, if you think that, you know, I watched my kid pace in front of the microwave the other day, you know what I mean? That’s like, really, that’s the fastest you can get. You know, you remember when we had to warm up stuff in the oven, God forbid, you know. It’s like, well, look, if you want the pizza crispy on the bottom, we gotta put it in the oven again. Ah, no, I’ll just eat it in the microwave. Right? 

Because nobody wants to wait. Nobody wants to plan things out and truly, you know I think that’s why people come to me, because I did rebuild my business back in five months, right? And I said, but you gotta realize that I had 14 years of experience before I lost it. You know what I mean? 

So that when I lost, they were, you know, seven. So that it, yeah. You know, but I had been in business for 14 years, so that when I lost it, I came back and yes, it was easier the second time because I did all the things I’m telling you to do. But see, you have to think about it. You have to think about it. I [00:41:00] said, nothing really takes that long. Nothing.

Robyn Mancell: Right. 

Richelle Shaw: Nothing! What takes the longest is you hemming and hawing and should I do that? Maybe I shouldn’t, I’m gonna call them. I’m not gonna call them today. The sun is shining, so I’m gonna call them tomorrow, cause maybe it’s raining. I’m not gonna do that. Ooh, the my favorite pen isn’t here. Okay. Then, gosh, they don’t have a, that’s what takes the long 

Robyn Mancell: Well, and the fact that too, even prior to meeting Linda, I had been doing mindset was something that was, I incorporated it into my life, right?

Richelle Shaw: Yes. Yes. So 

Robyn Mancell: I was doing this self check. I was not playing the victim in whatever was going on in my life when I lost five homes at one time. You know?

Richelle Shaw: Right, right. 

Robyn Mancell: So I had the mindset and so the preparation, you know, how they say what is, what is luck, it’s when an opportunity meets preparation.

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: Well, I haven’t already been doing all that. So [00:42:00] the difference, like you said, and you being able to rebuild in five months, is your head’s already on straight.

Richelle Shaw: Already. Already! And I’m just doing, I’m not thinking I’m doing what it takes, you know, I’m not going, Ooh, what if this doesn’t work?

Well, shit, I already lost my house. I already lost my mama’s house. You know, imagine that. You know, losing yours is not too bad. But when you tell your mama, look, , you know, she was already mad. I tell the story all the time. She was the last one to switch to my telephone service until after I bought her the house. 

So when we lost that was a tough one. You know, I should have tapped out then and went back to work. You know what I’m saying? I mean, it was, it was a horrible, hurtful time. I still just said, well, you know, here’s what I know what to do. I know how to do it. I know the mistake that I made and I used it as a learning opportunity and not a law.

 I think that you’ve done that too. And I think that you have to do that in the Forex space because you’re gonna lose, you’re gonna ask some trades that you lose on, but you know, [00:43:00] if you quit, then you quit as a loser. 

Robyn Mancell: Well I’ll give you an example. Linda has a, we have a plan, a 2020 plan.

And this 2020 plan is literally, so you see people, I’m sure everybody’s seen, they’ve got these big like, 10 TV screens up to do it. 

Richelle Shaw: Yes, yes.

Robyn Mancell: 20 pips, 20 pips a day, five days a week, and two hours a day or less. It’s conservative, but it’s a million dollars in four years. Now you can do it in a shorter time, but here’s, here’s the reality of what you said.

A lot of people don’t like when you say the average person, but something that works for the average person is pretty good.

Richelle Shaw: Right! (Richelle Applauding). Thank you. Thank you. 

Robyn Mancell: Because you’ve watched, what’s that show? America’s what’s the singing one? 

Richelle Shaw: American Idol? 

Robyn Mancell: Yeah, there you go. 

Richelle Shaw: Okay.

Robyn Mancell: A lot of those people think they can sing.[00:44:00] 

Richelle Shaw: Yeah.

Robyn Mancell: But we know better, right? 

Richelle Shaw: Right. 

Robyn Mancell: Okay. Right. There’s nothing wrong with average. Okay? You want something that the average person can person can do? 

Richelle Shaw: Absolutely. 

Robyn Mancell: Now, if you are above average, then prove it. Prove it. Well, I know what you think in your head. 

Richelle Shaw: I’m above average .

Robyn Mancell: Right? But, but what? Right and when you.., 

Richelle Shaw: But you know what, I mean like, but you know, so are you, right? But the real gift and that’s the thing that I learned over the last 10 years in this space, is that my true gift is by helping the average person do it. 

Robyn Mancell: Yes. Yes. I wanna help you, and that’s why I’m here. Right? That’s why you’re here.

Richelle Shaw: Right.

Robyn Mancell: What people have to understand is the [00:45:00] visionaries of the world. Are doing things because they really do wanna see change. 

Richelle Shaw: Yes. Yes. Yes. 

Robyn Mancell: Right? Because why else would a woman of my age over 50 decide….?

Richelle Shaw: You look great!

Robyn Mancell: Thank you, darling. Thank you so much. And of course you do too. But why would a woman decide who has no experience in something to go into that industry right after this many years?

Why would I wanna do this, unless it was to help empower other women?

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. Unless it’s something bigger than me, which that is, I truly believe that what I’m doing is my ministry. I think that’s why I was blessed so much earlier in my life, so that I could show what is possible so that I can be that goal, so that I can say, look, you can do it.

 And, cause there’s definitely times when, you know, I was speaking at the Christian [00:46:00] Business Women’s Group and they had me speaking and I was like, what am I gonna speak about? I’m not a preacher, I’m not a…, I’m like, I know two scriptures. That’s it. And, and those I mess up, 

Robyn Mancell: Right?

Richelle Shaw: And so I said, you know, the Lord is my shepherd and that other, but I can’t tell you where it is, Bible.

Robyn Mancell: Right? 

Richelle Shaw: But what I was telling them is that there has been a theme throughout my life, that every time I would be in a spot that wasn’t where, that I was the odd duck, right?

Robyn Mancell: Mm-hmm. 

Richelle Shaw: Is that people would say to me, you know, there’s just something about you and it used to bother me. Right? And I finally turned that around into, that’s God talking to me.

That’s him saying, Richelle, they see the light in you. 

Robyn Mancell: Yeah.

Richelle Shaw: They see that. They see me through you let it shine. So now when they say, you know, there’s just something about you.

I smile because I feel like that big, [00:47:00] I just feel God’s arms around me going, Yeah, Yeah. Okay. Okay. There’s just something about me and I used to try to dim that, of course. You know, because I wanted to fit in and I just don’t and so now I don’t, but also cause I’m over 50 and I just now just go, you know, I don’t care. I’m a this little light of mine. Right, right. I’m gonna let it shine , you know, go back to the old Sunday school thing.

But, it truly is and that’s really why I did this summit is because I brought my friends who are crushing it in multiple areas. I wanted them to share it with everybody else to say, look, you know, you have a gift too and if you don’t have it here, you know, maybe you want to learn to do Forex now. Right? 

Robyn Mancell: Right. 

Richelle Shaw: Or maybe you can learn to do flipping real estate, which my friend Lowe talked about or maybe you wanna do the Airbnb thing, which my friend Jerry’s talking about. Or you know, that we’ve got places to put you in [00:48:00] that work. Right? 

Robyn Mancell: Yes. 

Richelle Shaw: That work and we wanna options and we wanna see you change the world. Cause I believe that truly, if I can get 1 million, you know, entrepreneurs to reach the million dollar level, that the world will change.

Robyn Mancell: I agree with you. I agree with you. 

Richelle Shaw: The world will change because, you know, 3% of women owned business ever reach the million dollar level. 9% of all businesses are the only ones that reach the million dollars or more. So everybody else is somewhere down and they’re yeah, trying to figure out how to grow the next piece.

 I’m like, okay. You know what I mean? If we can just make this happen. Well, you know you told us about your group. You told us what you guys are teaching. What’s next for Girls Gone Forex? What are you doing with that?

Robyn Mancell: Okay, so what we are doing is, we have a nonprofit called and our nonprofit’s called Trade Like a Girl Foundation. 

Richelle Shaw: Got it. 

Robyn Mancell: So the reason for Trade Like A Girl Foundation, [00:49:00] is we have our signature event, which is called Invest Like Her. Invest Like Her and so Invest Like Her is where we bring in people like you, Yay and our newest speakers.

What we do, is we show women what they can do financially as investors and as entrepreneurs, we give them options. 

Richelle Shaw: Got it. 

Robyn Mancell: So we bring in people from the financial industry because one size does not fit all.

Richelle Shaw: Nope. 

Robyn Mancell: And we want them to be able to see what options there are out there in the world for themselves as both.

And so, Trade Like a Girl Foundation, the nonprofit. Our role there is to give away scholarships to women who cannot afford to go through our classes. We just opened up our first brand ambassador in the UK, he is in Scotland. and we are going across the globe and we’re not gonna let the reason or excuse be that you don’t have the money.

[00:50:00] We are doing that through our foundation, so through our foundation. We’re gonna go and we have a kids program coming out because we wanna teach kids also. So we go into schools. And so that’s what the non-profit, we have our for-profit, which has been, you know, going on three years. But this is an opportunity for us to go into areas like we had a gentleman contact us about coming to Kenya and, and helping there because they know the power of Forex is that you can trade anywhere.

You can start an account with just a hundred dollars and so the nonprofit and what is so wonderful about this is that there are so many organizations out there that are funding, that are about empowering women. 

Richelle Shaw: Yes. 

Robyn Mancell: And so we, I got a really nice letter from the people at Spanks. Sarah Blakeley’s people.

Richelle Shaw: Yes, yes. 

Robyn Mancell: Sarah in Atlanta and so they couldn’t work with us this year, but they said, Hey, next year, let’s talk about it and see what we can do. So it’s just a really good opportunity for us to reach women that thought they [00:51:00] were being left behind. 

Richelle Shaw: Ugh, love. And I love that. 

Robyn Mancell: So we can really put this information, cause here’s a great thing about this too. Once you learn how to do this, right? Nobody can ever take that away from you. You can literally decide, I got 20, the market is open in 24 hours a day. A lot of people don’t know this. It’s open 24 hours a day, six days a week. That’s a lot of options, right? 

Richelle Shaw: Yep. That’s a lot of options. 

Robyn Mancell: So you can decide what, okay, where does it fit in for me? So I can decide when I wanna trade. All I need is the knowledge. And it’ll take you about six months to go through our course. Once you go through our chorus, you are good to go. You’re good to go.

Richelle Shaw: Oh, I love it. I love it. 

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So I ask everybody the same two questions. So the first one is, tell me about your favorite client, not your ideal client, you know?

Cause we all know we, we need people with the right mindset. We need people who are implementers. Not that, but who is like your favorite client that every time you think about her, cause of course it’s gotta be a girl, right? 

That it makes you smile. Who would that be? 

Robyn Mancell: Yeah, Yeah. Okay. So this is easy because you and I talked about like, you know, you doing mindset and sometimes people need a little bit more. Right? 

Richelle Shaw: Right. 

Robyn Mancell: And I’m not a therapist obviously. I’ve had two failed [00:53:00] marriages, so I’m not a marriage counselor. (laughter) But it was a woman who told me I saved her marriage and that makes me cry almost every time I think about it. She called me because of the mindset and she shared that she was very frustrated with what was going on at home. She felt alone. A lot of women come to us because they need something for them. When you get around 40, 45, you start looking, the kids get older and you’re like..,

Richelle Shaw: Yep.

Robyn Mancell: What about me? Like, what, what’s for me? Right? I took care of the husband, I took care of the kids. Can I get something from me here? 

Richelle Shaw: Yeah, please. 

Robyn Mancell: And in some cases the parents are getting older and now they’re taking care of the parents. Right? That’s why most of them come to us. And so she said, because she’d gone through the academy, she said I’m just frustrated.

I’m ready to leave my husband and he’s a good man, but I’m ready to leave him, because I’m doing everything and nobody’s helping me. I don’t care how loud I yell, no one is, they’re not hearing me. And she said, and I am [00:54:00] at the point where I’m just ready to go. I’m ready to just call her today. So we had a, we had a very nice chat.

And I, I gave her something to do. I said, I want you to try something different cause what you’re doing is not working. So, I want you to speak to your husband in a different way because you’re speaking at him. I need you to talk to him and I’m gonna tell you what words I think that you need to say to him.

So we went through that, told her what to do. I said, now I want you to let me know how it goes, but here’s what I need you to do. Just get outta your own way and do this. So she did. Three weeks later she called and I said, so what’s going on? Haven’t heard from you? Like, what’s going on? She said, I’ve been on my new honeymoon.

She said I did what you told me to do and everything in our life has changed. She said, we have date night now. He’s went in there with the kids [00:55:00] and got the kids online. She said, he’s my partner again and I sent her a gift for her and him. It was like a game or something for married couples or something like that. 

That is, because it wasn’t supposed to be that.

Richelle Shaw: Right? Right. 

Robyn Mancell: Yeah. Cause I said, I’m not a marriage counselor. I would never think that I could do that. 

Richelle Shaw: No, no, no, no. But what happens is we end up, you know, cause we can hear it. Right? We can see it. I see that all the time. Yeah. I mean, it doesn’t matter if you’re coaching with me, that has to come out because that’s keeping you from implementing often.

And it’s like, okay, well what’s going on there? Well, they don’t listen to me. Well, they don’t. Well, they don’t. And I said, well, what are you doing? Because, it’s not all they. You know and I’ve never been married, so who am I to say? Right? But what I do know, is I know how I like to be treated. 

Robyn Mancell: Yes!.

Richelle Shaw: And so I know how I want to be talked to, I know how I want to be included in the [00:56:00] conversation and if that’s not happening, then it ends up, but not to discount what you did, you know that’s absolutely amazing. All right. Second question is. What, and last question. So folks watching, I know that they have been enlightened. I know they were writing nuggets. I know they have fallen in love with you, how I have fallen in love with you. What do they need to do? What’s the number one thing they need to do to really crush 2019? I mean, they may be watching this after, because of course, you know, this never dies w ith the video. So if they’re watching this late and whatever year, you know, what is it that they just need to do to change their life? What is it? 

Robyn Mancell: Kind of like what you said. Believe that they can and make a decision. 

The, the, 

it starts with the decision, right? So you have to make the decision that are you really fed up or is this just something you wanna keep talking about? Like, complaining just to complain?

And if you are really, 

if you’re [00:57:00] not gonna do anything, the decision, if you’re not gonna do anything, then just stay where you are and do that. 

Just 

just own that, right? You’re not gonna do anything. 

I just like to complain. . 

Richelle Shaw: Yep. Yep. Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: But the first very thing is, and this is interesting that you asked this because I’m teaching the sciences of getting rich right now we’re, in the middle of the science of getting rich.

And 

the science of getting rich is not just about, people think, oh, it’s just about me learning how to get rich. No, it really is not. That’s not really what it’s about. 

No, 

it is about you doing things in a certain way, like you said. It is. You doing things in a certain way and not getting so caught up emotionally in it.

Richelle Shaw: Right. 

Robyn Mancell: It is you making a decision that starts with what a thought. 

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. A thought. Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: Everything that we 

do starts there. Right? 

Richelle Shaw: Absolutely.

Robyn Mancell: And so before you can go onto the second step, this gotta be, Right. So the So the answer to your question, it is making the decision [00:58:00] that I am gonna do something different.

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. Right 

Robyn Mancell: And if you’re not, it’s owning too that too. Just not gonna do anything. 

Richelle Shaw: Right! Right! Well, you know, I was in a relationship that went on far too long and it was not great for me. Right. And you know, when it was over, people go, I had no idea, well, why? I wasn’t gonna tell you because I wasn’t gonna do anything. I wasn’t ready to leave. 

Robyn Mancell: Right. 

Richelle Shaw: When I was finally ready to leave, then I told y’all, but to tell you before I’m ready to leave, I don’t need you. Ooh. You know, I don’t need your judgment. I don’t need any of that. But that’s cause I’ve always done the inner work. You know, I will look at that and say, okay, am I ready to make a decision to stop doing that?

Robyn Mancell: Yeah. 

Richelle Shaw: Sometimes I am ready and sometimes I’m not and when I’m not, I go, you know what, I’m not, so, I’m gonna have my chili dog today and y’all just need to get over it. (laughter). You know what I mean? It’s like, whatever. I’m not, I’m not ready to give that up. Right. But when I’m ready, then [00:59:00] boom, I just do it. 

Robyn Mancell: My mom told me that once about me.

I told my mom she was in a relationship, after her divorce and she would constantly tell me about what was going on and I said to her one day, why you keep telling me about this? Are you planning on leaving? Like, you keep talking about it. Like, are you leaving? And she told me this later. She said, you know what?

And she tell people, my daughter told me that if I’m not gonna make a decision, I need to shut up talking about it. Cause obviously you like being there.

Richelle Shaw: Right! Right! You know? But I think that, you want to really be there and if you are, then commit to it.

And if you’re not, then get out. You know that. Life is not black and white, but it certainly is, I think, when it is decision making, you know, there’s nothing more powerful than a changed mine. Nothing. 

Robyn Mancell: And to make a decision, like you said about this, even when I go to, even when I go out to a restaurant, I am probably the most decisive person there.

I’m like, Everybody else is going back and forth and I’m like this right. . 

Richelle Shaw: Right, [01:00:00] right, right. I know before I get there, when I’m having, you know, and, and I sit and just listen and they go, Ooh, well why don’t you get the salmon? And I’ll get the no, because I don’t like the salmon, so I’m gonna get what I like and how about you get what you like and then, you know, and if I want two, then I get two. 

Cause I don’t care that you have a problem or if I want like two desserts. So what, so, so, really, you know, I probably won’t eat it all, but I want a taste of this and taste that. But I’m not gonna sit here and go back and forth with, ooh, well maybe I should or shouldn’t, you know that som should I stay or should I go?

You know, that’s that… Look, it hasn’t always been that way. 

Robyn Mancell: Mindset, 

Richelle Shaw: Hasn’t always been that way. But, it is now just because I’ve had enough failure, I’ve had enough success. I’ve had it. And to be perfectly honest with they don’t really feel that different.

Robyn Mancell: Yes. 

Richelle Shaw: Right. And people don’t know that. They don’t, because what happens is, you know, they set a [01:01:00] goal and they get at the end of the goal and they go, well, you know, cause nothing happens, balloons don’t go off, you don’t walk into the bank and they go, YEAH, THERE SHE IS!, you know, they also don’t do that when I’m overdrawn.

Right? So you gotta get to the point where you love the process. Where you stay with the process and you give yourself your own wins and your own accomplishments and your whole, your own high fives. Because if you don’t, then you never feel better. You see? And then you’ll keep going and, Ooh, I gotta get, and I gotta get, and I gotta get, and I gotta get, and if it’s always about numbers, you will always be miserable cause numbers don’t end.

Now I didn’t say that Bob Marley said that , but numbers don’t end. 

So if that’s your focus, is I just need to get to a million, a million won’t be enough. You know, mine was, I needed to learn to be happy and that’s how I was able to rebuild the business back so quickly. 

Robyn Mancell: Absolutely. 

Richelle Shaw: Because I got happy about and full of joy when I shouldn’t have been, you know, I have every reason to not be [01:02:00] full of joy, but I don’t have a right,

Robyn Mancell: Because you have gratitude and you have gratitude.

Richelle Shaw: That’s right. 

Robyn Mancell: That’s the number one thing, I had a mentor and one of the things that he said, he asked us when he was training, he said, are people motivated by money? And he said, you are absolutely not motivated by money. Cause money is the easiest thing to make. You can make it legally or illegal.

Richelle Shaw: Illegally. Right! 

Robyn Mancell: So what you have to decide is what is behind that decision and again, mine was when I left the phone company, it was that Mabel was a union and everything was based on seniority. I was low seniority, because everybody in there had been there forever. 

Richelle Shaw: Right. Because their mama got ’em a job.

Robyn Mancell: Oh, yes. You know, yeah. They’re not leaving and I remember walking in there and the girl taking me around and saying, she’s been here 12 years, she’s been here 20 years, she’s been here 30 years. And I told her, I’m not gonna be there that long. 

Richelle Shaw: Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: She said, yeah, well, that’s what they all said. I said, yeah, but [01:03:00] they’re all not me.

Richelle Shaw: Right, right!

Robyn Mancell: I was there seven years and seven years seemed like an eternity.

Richelle Shaw: Forever. Yeah. 

Robyn Mancell: But when they changed my hours and I had my kids in daycare, and they literally said too bad, that, I mean, they said that they were gonna put, what do you call termination letters there, if you didn’t like it and because I was low in seniority, it didn’t matter that I was a better worker.

Because I was low seniority and I had two children. I was going through divorce and I had children in daycare that closed at six o’clock way back then. They said, you now get off at six o’clock and that’s not our problem, how you get your kids. 

Richelle Shaw: That’s right. That’s definitetly…

Robyn Mancell: And so at that point that said to me, these are their core values and these are mine. 

Richelle Shaw: Right, right, right. Because what that means is you don’t give a shit about me. You know what I mean? I mean, it really, well, that’s how I see it, is that, oh, obviously you don’t care about me.

And I also wanted to [01:04:00] control my worth and how much people paid me. Right. And I wanted to be compensated for my work. And I struggle, which is why I don’t work in a job and whichever. But we can, we could go on forever and ever. 

Robyn Mancell: How about that? Right? 

Richelle Shaw: Right? Because we definitely think the right way. It has been my pleasure and my honor to have you..

Robyn Mancell: Oh, thank you

Richelle Shaw: I am so grateful that you would spend an hour with us , you know, since talking about I’m excited about Girls Gone Forex. I’m excited about speaking at the event. It sounds like that’s gonna be fun. 

Robyn Mancell: Yay. Oh yeah, we’re gonna have fun. And we have a day of beauty scheduled the day before, so we’re, we got a day to be, be girly girls and then the next…

Richelle Shaw: Okay, maybe I won’t wear black that day, (laughter), but if I tell the truth, shame the devil. I’m gonna wear black. Okay. I’m just gonna wear black. But that’s gonna be awesome. There will be information below about the event where you can come see both me and Robyn do her thing.

[01:05:00] There’ll be information that if you wanna take the class, the great equalizer, there’s that below. If you wanna, if you’re ready to change your life and you just wanna talk to her, they’ll be that below too . So thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much everybody my friend Robyn Mancell. Yaaaaay !!!!!.